Q: Where do you work and what is your area of health law specialization?
A: McDermott Will & Emery in our Miami office and I am serving as our office managing partner. I switched areas of specialization over the years, starting as a fraud and abuse defense litigator, and then moved to MWE’s transactional practice. I focus mostly on mergers and acquisitions, mostly in private equity the healthcare services and healthcare IT space, and sometimes in the medical device space, but generally not in pharma. I work with clients such as private equity funds and entrepreneurs selling their businesses and provide counseling on regulatory matters, licensure, fraud and abuse, and compliance. At this point in my career, about two thirds of my work is deal related and one third is general advice and counseling.
Q: What is your highlight reel? Your career defining moment?
A: It was one of the most significant transactions I worked on as a young deal lawyer: the original sale of Surgery Partners to a PE fund and it was, for me, one of the first bigger deals that I worked on. It was complicated and had an accelerated timeline, and I was second chair on that deal. What is neat, in my mind, is that the company is sort of a client again at MWE, so to have seen them go through multiple transactions and now be a publicly traded company, and it is a very full circle moment to see a founder-owned company being sold to a large public company doing a lot of cool things.
Additionally, I was involved in my first IPO of a client in 2021. Most of the work I do is private company work, or even when we work with public companies, it is deal work that is not public. This IPO was for a privately held, PE-backed company and I worked with our securities team providing regulatory and corporate counsel — it was a cool process. It IPO’d right as the market was getting rocky, so it was rewarding to see the IPO go through right before the market got worse.
Q: What are you doing when you are not working? What is a unique thing about you that has nothing to do with lawyering?
A: Most of my time not working is spent with my family. I have two boys, ages 9 and 11, who are very active in football, basketball, and other sports. We love to travel and we go on lots of trips whenever possible. We particularly had significant cabin fever post-COVID and went on multiple trips to make up for the lost time, including our first family ski trip in Aspen.
Before I was a lawyer, I was a practicing physical therapist and it was a really cool job and I really liked working with people directly and being able to help people. Despite liking the job and being surrounded by great people in the profession, I just wanted something more challenging – so I went back to law school. Was being a physical therapist useful for my law career? Yes and no — I didn’t practice physical therapy long enough to learn the business side of it, but it was useful to be able to speak the language of healthcare providers, to relate to other providers who are clients, and also being able to learn how to deal with someone who has a problem and being able to work with people in stressful situations.
Q: What do you see as an emerging area/topic?
A: Value-based care. Ever since 2010 when the ACA passed, the industry has been trying to figure out what value-based care really means and how to work towards it. It reminds me of when HIPAA first started, and it was on the books, yet enforcement didn’t happen for 9-10 years afterwards. During that time, clients and attorneys both didn’t really appreciate HIPAA because there were no consequences as of yet, and then the other shoe dropped and everyone suddenly cared about HIPAA. In a similar way, since the ACA, value-based care is a buzz word and everyone is working towards it, but I think we are finally getting to a place where to move the health care system, we do need to provide value, take risk, and be able to manage quality of care and cost and outcomes. There is still so much wrong with the healthcare system in the U.S., so I think the interest in value-based care will only take off. There is a lot more on the way.